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Chapter 5.

February 1875 – August 1899  

 

 

"The Evidence Further Amendment Act: 

'declarations in lieu of oaths permitted.'" 

 

Richmond River (Bundjalung Nation) Tribe members, 1865

[Source: Oakes, M.J., The Aborigines of the Richmond Area (Richmond River Historical Society, Pamphlet No. 2]

 

Documents

1875

09/02/1875-21/03/1877 GOVERNMENT: John (later Sir John) Robertson, Premier (Liberal)  See: Sir John Robertson and land reforms  )

1876

Select Committee on the condition of the Aborigines

Checklist of Royal Commissions Select Committees of Parliament and Boards of Inquiry, Index NSW 1855-1960; "304. SC (Select Committee) on condition of the aborigines. (19.12. 1876) These Documents are missing from the archives.

 

Aboriginal evidence

 

Go to: Evidence Further Amendment Act 1876 (40 Vic. No. 8); declarations in lieu of oaths permitted 

 

Truganini

 

"Fresh Blood, Old Wounds": Tasmania and Guns

 

“The Kangaroo Plague."  

 

1877  

18/12/1877-6/12/1878 GOVERNMENT: Farnell, James Squire, Premier (Conservative)

JS Farnell, secretary for lands

"In 1872-75 Farnell was secretary for lands in Henry Parkes's first government. In 1872-73 he bore the brunt of the rush for mineral leases and dealt with applications for three-quarters of a million acres ... In 1877 ... as the secretary for lands, became the first native-born prime minister of New South Wales ..."

Royal Commission into "the present condition of the Aborigines"

"In 1877 a Royal Commission was appointed 'to inquire into the present condition of the aborigines of the colony, and advise as to the best means of caring for and dealing with them in the future.'  "[Whitworth. Mr R.P.; The Treatment of the Aboriginals-1838 to 1847in Victoria and Its Metropolis (Melbourne, 1888) Page 253 

 

1880

Parliamentary Votes and Proceedings, "Aboriginal natives"

Legislative Council, Wednesday 30 June,1880

Aboriginal Natives

June 3rd 1880

Appointment of protectors of the blacks .. protection of the aboriginal natives from oppression and outrage on the part of Her Majesty's demoralised white subjects in New South Wales, [p3114] Adjournment, Protection of Aborigines [pp1314-1318]  

House adjourned at 23 minutes before 1 o'clock a.m.

 

Parliamentary Votes and Proceedings, "Aboriginal natives"

Legislative Council.

Wednesday, 30 June, 1880.

Aboriginal Natives—Church and School Lands Dedication Bill (No. 2)—Volunteer Land Orders Hill—Messages from Assembly Bill—Wharfage and Tonnage Rates Bill)— Adjournment (Protection of Aborigines)---Supreme Court Temporary Judge Act Continuation Bill (Second Reading).

The President took the chair at half-past 4 o'clock p.m.

ABORIGINAL NATIVES. Mr. C. CAMPBELL asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council,— Does the Government purpose appointing protectors of  the blacks in the districts of The Macintyre, The Barwon, The Darling, The Lachlan, The Murrumbidgee, and The Murray, with a view  to the protection of the  aboriginal    natives   from  oppression and outrage on the part of Her Majesty's demoralised white subjects  in New South Wales?  

Sir JOHN ROBERTSON replied: It does not seem to me that there is any reason for the protection of aborigines in the districts named any more than in other districts. I do not know why they should be selected. I may be permitted to say that the whole matter of the protection of the aborigines of the colony is under the consideration of the Government.

Adjournment  

PROTECTION   OF   ABORIGINES.

Mr. C. CAMPBELL moved the adjournment of the House in order to make a few remarks on the subject of the question he had just addressed to the Representative of the Government. He was pleased to hear that the matter was .under the consideration of the Government. His own view on this subject was that any portion of the great body of mankind which had been separated from the rest of the civilised races for centuries could scarcely be restored to equality. Therefore it might be supposed that he was indifferent to what was called civilising the aborigines of this country. He thought they were out of the reach of the influences of civilisation, and possibly of the influences of Christianity. But however that might be, the first step to be taken on the part of the Colonial Government ought to be to protect them from outrage by the British portion of the community. The reason why he mentioned the five districts was because there was still a great number of natives in them, and   it   would   be   useless   to   appoint  protectors to portions of the colony now scarcely inhabited by aboriginal natives. Wherever there were rivers abounding in fish there were still many aborigines ; and he maintained that great wrong to them might have been averted by the appoint­ment of gentlemen holding the office of Police Magistrate and having protective powers given to them as in the colony of South Australia. He alluded particularly to those outrages inflicted in consequence of the aboriginal women being subjected to the lust of the white man. About three years ago he was in one of the districts named, when application was made to the gentleman with whom he was residing by a black to assist him in recovering his gin who was kept away from him by force. It was pointed out to the gentleman that he had no power to interfere. He had heard of a case in which an over­seer had promised an aboriginal a quantity of goods, tobacco, etc., for the labours of his wife, and after obtaining what he sought with the woman he refused to give the blackfellow the promised articles, and as the black was importunate, the overseer had him tied to a dray and cruelly flogged. A few weeks ago there was a good deal of excitement about a black boy being brought by stockmen into one of the civilised districts. When he was in the district he spoke of, it was a common practice to buy a black boy for £5, and although doubtless it was an illegal act he did not see that much harm was done in bringing the boys into contact with the white population. But the fact that they were liable to such illegal acts showed how necessary it was to give them such protection as that contemplated in the question.

Motion made, and question proposed. 

 

Sir JOHN ROBERTSON hardly knew what his honorable and learned friend had in his mind when he put the question, unless it were the buying and selling of black boys, of which he seemed to approve. For his own part, he had a great objection to the practice, and if the facts could be proved the Government would do all in their power to put it down. But it was denied; and who knew whether it was true or not ? He had no sympathy with those who bartered in human flesh. It was usually put forward that the Governments and the people of the colony had not been good to  the blacks; and he quite agreed with his honorable friend that they might have done more good to them. But having had  experience in other colonies, especially in Queensland, he could say that our squatters never treated the blacks here as they had been treated in that part of Australia. No one in the  Chamber had been so much in the backwoods as he and Mr. Ogilvie ; but he defied any one to say that our squatters refused the blacks permission to  "come in," as  it  was  called, which refusal   was   the   practice   in   the northern  colony.     When he  was  out  in that country, having large stations there, he endeavoured  to put down the practice of debarring the blacks from the stations, but he found it out of his power to resist it.     If one man had 15 or 18 square miles of territory and others had the same areas adjoining,  What  was to become  of  these poor blacks  if they were not  allowed on the land?    In New South Wales he usually made friends with a prominent member of the tribe and gave him sufficient consideration to make peace with the blacks,   and there was no instance in which they were refused to "come in" on the run.  He knew the proprietors of runs in this colony had almost invariably been exceedingly kind to the blacks. True, some of the convict servants,  in olden times, were very cruel to these people ; and  their conduct was very different from that of their employers. The honorable member said the districts mentioned required peculiar con­sideration in reference to the blacks. But we had to go only 3 miles from Sydney to find blacks who required protection more than those in any other district.  Let him go to Rose Bay and there he would see young children—of course in the guardianship of their parents— and any man might  have them for a shilling. He could not under­stand why the Police Magistrate did not take the children from the women and put them into the Reformatory. A few days ago a clergyman came to him at the head of a deputation, to represent the manner in which these people were treated in the interior, and this case at Rose Bay was brought under his notice. No power was given to issue  prosecution, but it was pointed out that the   Government had an establishment near these women to which the children might  be  taken. Although we might not have done so much as we ought to have done for the blacks, at any rate they received rations sufficient for their support; they also received clothing, and blankets had always been supplied to them. If, however, the blankets were given to them earlier than June, they sold them, and if they were given later people complained if the cold weather came in a little sooner than usual. What can be done with people who could not in these small matters take care of themselves? The other day a gentleman came to him to recommend the establishment of a school for aborigines in The Murrumbidgee district, and he immediately authorised the school without troubling about the mode of action or whether it came within the rule or not. The honorable member said we ought to appoint a Police Magistrate to protect the blacks. Some of them had been provided for, and a boat was given to them, but they quarrelled about it and it had to be given into the custody of the local Police Magistrate. The general matter might well be left in the hands of the Government, and at the present time they were giving it anxious consideration. It was, however, a difficult problem. We could not pretend to provide schools for them, or to improve their morals; they had no idea of morality. In the case the honorable and learned member referred to, the com­plaint of the aboriginal was not that his gin was the victim of immorality, but that he derived no profit from it. If we wanted to save the poor young children he had mentioned, their cases should be brought before the Police Court, and if the mothers were unfit to have charge of them, the children ought to be put in the Reformatory. We had a suitable place for them, capable of accommodating twenty-five girls, and there were now only four inmates. It was a discredit to the magistracy of the country that the children were not better cared for. It would be an act of philanthropy for some one to look after them. The Government were certainly not amenable to the complaints made by the honorable member.  

Mr. OGILVIE said the subject was one with which he was conversant, having passed a large portion of his life in the backwoods and taken a great interest in the aborigines. He quite agreed with the Vice-President of the Executive Council [Sir John Robertson.]

that it was exceedingly difficult to know what ought to be done with these people. Neither the colonists nor the Government could be charged with having illtreated them, though the Government perhaps had not done as much as it might have done in their behalf. They who knew most about the matter must be aware that the great agency in effecting the misery and destruction of the blacks was the intoxicating liquor they obtained, and every means practicable should be taken to prevent it from being supplied to them. Parliament had passed a law prohibiting the practice, but the law remained a dead-letter, sufficient trouble not having been taken to give it force. If the police in the different districts were strongly enjoined to watch public-houses in order to procure convictions for this offence, an improved state of the condition of the blacks might be brought about. But he had known even Police Magistrates to supply them with intoxicating drinks. He had known a Police Magistrate to speak of the prohibitory law as an improper one, more righteous to break than to observe. In the districts where these things took place it was not likely that the police would take much trouble to enforce the law. Something might be done to compel these officers to do their duty in this respect. With regard to the female children ho thought the suggestion of the Vice-President of the Executive Council was right, that they should be taken away from parents who were found willing to trade them in the way ho described. But he would not advocate their entire separation from their parents by shutting them up in reformatories to which the mothers had no access. Although the mothers might not be fit to be trusted with their children in this respect, as a matter of fact they had great affection for them, and to be deprived of them would inflict great grief and sorrow. Therefore ho thought it de­sirable that the children should be taken from the parents and put under proper control, the parents being allowed access to them. Institutions of this kind had been established in South Australia for several years; the children were gathered together in schools and taken care of. If anything of that kind could be done for the aboriginal children of this colony it would be highly desirable.    Any attempts to civilise or christianise them must result in failure; they were not capable of receiving the influences of civilisation, and the race was not likely to last long enough to derive much benefit from Christianity. As soon as the white race appeared in any district the blacks dwindled away and in a short time died out. The injury of taking from them their lands ought to be mitigated as much as lay in our power, and we should make their lives as comfortable as possible during the time they were destined to remain. Suggestions had been made that something should be given to them more than blankets. Clothes might be given to them two or three times a year ; the cost would not be so great that we should begrudge it to a race whom we had despoiled of their territory.  

Mr. FOSTER thought the state of the aboriginal inhabitants of the colony was a blot on the British name. We came here as British subjects and took up the country in millions of acres appropriating it to our own use, and the smallness of the amount we had contributed to the welfare of those we dispossessed was disgraceful. When we saw the state in which they were placed we could not acquit ourselves of blame. The wrong no doubt was one of neglect rather than of illtreatment. The blacks here had not been so badly treated as in other countries. The people could not escape the blame of neglect by throwing it on the Government, though a great deal might have been, and had not been, done by the Government, who even now might do more. The honorable and learned member, Mr. Charles Campbell, suggested that some officers like protectors of the blacks should be appointed, and this was reasonable. How could these people who did not know right from wrong know how to protect themselves ? Were they to be left to the philanthropy of persons whose interference was looked on as officious? These aborigines were expected to subject them­selves to the laws of the country and to have the benefit of those laws. They did not know what benefit the laws afforded, and surely we might appoint persons to see what protection could be given to them. If there had been a protector of the blacks near Sydney he might have prevented the abuse of the children referred to by the Vice-President of the Executive Council. It was a breach  of the law,  according to the ages of the children, and would subject the perpetrators   to severe  penalties. A person  whose business it  was to  protect the children might avert the evil to a very great extent.  Not long ago the same thing was going on in the interior, and a philanthropic gentleman spoke of it to the police and  they  said  it was  not their business to interfere, not  being  instructed  to  do so. He spoke to the Superintendent of  the district, and  under   that  officer's authority the   infamous state of  things was put down. The camps of the blacks had been used in a way that was a disgrace to any Christian country. If the laws were put in force more zealously, the blacks would be in a better  position ; nine-tenths of the   wrongs they  suffered were not owing to any defect in the law, but to the want of   vigour   in its administration. Nothing could  be more philanthropic and more consistent with our duty as a  Christian  people, than to strive  to enable these tribes to  know the  benefits of the law under which  they lived. The appointment of officers, like the protectors of the blacks in Victoria and  South Australia, to look after these people, and see that they were not wronged, would admit of the  law being  carried  out effectively. He could  not agree with what fell from Mr. Ogilvie as to  the utter  impossibility of  doing anything to christianise  the blacks. Efforts of that kind had and were now  being made by  philanthropic individuals and were exceedingly  successful. It was true that the blacks had little idea of morality in our sense of the word; but   it was  true they had feelings like those of other  human beings, which were being outraged every day. A gentleman who devoted himself to their interests told him that lately one of these unfortunate girls requested his protection from the brutality to which  she was subjected by her tribe. She was put with others under protection. He did  not think it likely that the whole of the blacks could be christianised; but something might be done in individual cases, and he was glad that a society was established for that purpose, and to this the Government might very properly give a little encouragement. The 

  main thing, however, was that  the Government should deal with the matter having respect to their own powers ; and by the appointment of protectors... 

1882

 

Supply of alcohol to Aborigines forbidden  

Licensing Act 1882 (45 Vic. No. 14) [Repealed by Act 18, 1898] (supply to aboriginal natives of any age forbidden. Mc)

 

Parliamentary Votes and Proceedings, Provision for Aborigines

Legislative Council Provision for Aborigines [20 Sept 1882] (p473)

 

1882 Select Committee; Aboriginal mission stations

Checklist of Royal Commissions Select Committees of Parliament and Boards of Inquiry, Index NSW 1855-1960; "Inquiry into working of aboriginal mission stations at Warangesda and Maloga (23.6.1882) (8.8.1882), NSW  Pp. 1883 (v.3) 937-941

 

1883

 

 Legislative Assembly; 21 February 1883 Brewarrina Aboriginal Mission, Aborigines removed to America, Protectorate of Aborigines [21 Feb 1883]    

Parliamentary Votes and Proceedings, Ministerial Statement, Treatment of Aborigines

4 Jan 1883

Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY]

PAGE MISSING (Page 31)

Sir HENRY PARKES : I cannot help the honorable gentleman saying "No." I allow him to say the most outrageous things and I never say " No." Surely then the honorable gentleman will allow me to make an explanation ! That explanation is that this office was created in the interests of the blacks, and that Mr. Thornton was appointed to it as a gentleman whom we believed to be in every way qualified to look after the interests of these people. With regard to the allegation that these people were left in a stale of starvation on Christmas day, or any other day, I am sure honorable members will at once know that all I can do in such a case is to apply a remedy when I am made acquainted with the evil. When I received from the honorable member a letter informing me of this case 1 did not lose, a single hour in causing an inquiry to be made.

Mr. McELHONE: Hear, hear!

Sir HENRY PARKES: I caused inquiry to be made of the Protector of the Aborigines, and I specially sent a police officer to inquire into the allegations brought under my notice by the honorable member. I gave instructions that whatever was required for the necessities and comfort of these people should be supplied, without reference to anybody else. I ask the House. what more could I or any other person possibly do? it seems to me, to say the least of it—I will not say an ungracious thing, because I cannot expect anything gracious from the honorable member—but it does seem a most unjustifiable thing to make an affected interest in these unfortunate people a means of heaping insult and untruthful representation upon me.

Mr. McELHONE, in explanation : I should state that the honorable gentleman's colleague, the Colonial Treasurer, instructed Mr. Hill to supply the aborigines at Botany with rations. Mr. Hill, although not legally appointed to the office of Protector of the Aborigines, voluntarily discharged its duties for a period of two years, at the end of which time Mr. George Thornton received the appointment he now holds, Mr. Hill receiving no notice that his services would no longer be required.

Question resolved in the affirmative. House adjourned at l.25 p.m.

1884

 

Parliamentary Votes and Proceedings; the Aborigines Protection Board

 [17 April 1884] Legislative Assembly

“Aborigines Protection Board.

Proposed vote, .£6,600.

Mr. O'CONNOR drew attention to the item, ‘Aid to Association for Protection of  Aborigines   in   proportion  of £2 for every £1 raised by private contributions, .£2,000.’    The aborigines were the true natives of the colony, but by our audacity and by the spirit of adventure of our race had supplanted them.    We had taken lands from them, and we were bound to attend to the wants of those who were left.   It was a dishonor to the country that a vote for the sustenance of the aborigines  should  be granted conditionally on the public subscribing an amount equal  to half of  that which was voted by   Parliament.     In  the  name  of common humanity and the dignity of our race, was this right?  The aborigines had no special representative in this Assembly, they had   no   particular  interest   in   the country,   but   he   hoped   that   honorable members would be animated by a spirit of fairness and honesty, and refuse  to  agree this vote with  the  condition to which objected. Suppose   a  sum  of £1,000 I not subscribed by the public !  

AN HonORAble MEmBer :  More shame to the public!  

Mr. O'CONNOR : The  poor  blackfellow would go without  blankets  and with out food.  

Mr. R. H.  D. WhitE : A great many of them are without  food and blankets

now !  

Mr. O'CONNOR : More shame on us! Was it not dishonoring and humiliating for the vote to be submitted to Parliament the condition to which he referred?  We ought to make provision for the protection of the aborigines without any such stipulation. All nations which had invaded other countries had made ample provision for the people whom they supplanted. The people of England were taxed to the extent of .£20,000,000 for the liberation of the blacks of the West Indies. It was unbecoming of a free and £ prosperous country like this to surround a Vote for the protection of the aborigines with a condition which was not applied to any other vote, and he asked the Colonial Secretary to withdraw the condition attached to the item to which he had drawn his attention.  

Mr. STUART : I am quite sure the Committee will re-echo to a great extent the views put forward by my impetuous friend, the honorable member for West Sydney. One would imagine from the way in which the honorable member hurled indignant remonstrances against the manner in which this vote has been placed upon the Estimates that the Government were placing greater restrictions upon the expenditure of the money. The honorable member will recollect that in the year before last there appeared upon the Esti­mates for the first time a vote for the laudable purpose of aiding the aborigines —excepting of course the annual vote for blankets, which is included in the Stores Department. I find that when the vote was under consideration last session I said :

‘Last year was the first time that any care at all was shown towards the aborigines, and then a secretary was appointed, whose salary was paid out of the advance vote.’

In 1882 a sum of .£200 was voted for a secretary to the Aborigines Protection Board, and last year the sum of 3,600 was placed upon the Estimates for the purpose of protecting these persons. The vote appeared upon the Estimates in this form : "Aid to the Association for the Pro­tection of the Aborigines, .£2,000 ; towards the formation of stations and otherwise in aid of the aborigines, £1,000." With re­gard to the first of these items, it became a question in what proportion the amount voted should be paid. It is customary for the Government to aid institutions having benevolent objects in view m the proportion of.£1 to £1; some are aided in the proportion of 10s. to £1. I believe that my honorable friend, Sir John Robertson, is the patron of the Society for the Protection of the Aborigines, and the honorable gentleman stated, at a public meeting of that society, that he would recom­mend the Government of which he was a member to contribute .£2 for every .£1 raised by the society. That proposal, however, fell through, and the amount was not placed upon the Estimates. Last year £2,000 was voted, and that vote appears upon the Estimates now before us. But .£1,000 was also voted without any restriction whatever. The Board for the Protection of the Aborigines were allowed to deal with that sum. In the first instance, the Honorable George Thornton was appointed Protector of the Aborigines ; but as the work opened up it was found desirable to intrust to a board the duties of the protector. That board consisted of six members, of which the Honorable George Thornton was elected the first chairman. He has since resigned, but the board is carried on;  and  the Committee are now asked to vote £4,000 in lieu of the £1,000 which  was  voted  last  year. The honorable member for West Sydney (Mr. O'Connor), who addresses us on this subject in  such  an impassioned manner, may be correct in saying that the total vote of £6,000  is unworthy of the  dignity of  the  nation  and  the  liberality  of   the House; but the sum  of £4,000 is  three times as much as the sum voted   last year for the board to dispose  of as they think proper.   In addition to the distribution of this vote, however, the board has the control of the blankets, the money for which is voted under the Stores Department. The Society for the Protection of the Aborigines has formed certain stations, which are called mission stations, with the benevolent object of endeavouring in some measure to raise the social and moral status of the aborigines. I was only too glad to find  that   my  predecessors  in  office had taken up this matter, and I hope that the House will continue to vote money in assist­ance of so benevolent a design. In estab­lishing these stations the society interweaves with their benevolent  object the imparting of religious instruction and duties. This is a work which the state cannot undertake. Whether for good or for evil the state has decided that it will not interfere in religious matters. But this society, while it is doing work of a religious and moral character, is at the same time carrying out a highly benevolent work ; and the   state is willing  to aid  the society, not by way of granting aid to religion but in order to take advantage of the benevolent instincts of the association to do something  towards  improving the social and moral welfare of the aborigines. I have no doubt that the society will raise the £l,000, and if it does so it will be the channel for the expenditure of the £2,000 contributed by the Government towards the objects of the institution. The Aborigines Protection Board will have placed at their disposal £4,000 for the furtherance of a most useful work. I commend for the perusal of honorable members the report of the board, which I laid upon the table the other day. When they have digested that report I am sure they will come to the conclusion that the board is beginning a really good work —a  work  which I quite agree  with  the honorable member for West Sydney (Mr. O’Connor) ought to have been mm. many years ago if the country had been alive to its duty in this matter. But it is better to begin late than never. I do not think it would be prudent to place on the Estimates at once a large sum for this purpose.  Let the board go on with their work. Last year  they had £1,000 at their disposal, this year they will have £4,000. If next year it is found  that they satisfactorily appropriate a larger sum of money, I feel satisfied that they will not appeal in vain to the generosity of this House.  

Mr. GARRARD said  that the honorable member for West Sydney (Mr.O'Connor)   did   not   appear   to   have examined these items very attentively, but he  was glad  that  the honorable member had referred to the matter. His eloquent language would, perhaps, have the effect of reminding some honorable members their  duty   as  the   descendents  of  those who first took possession of  this land towards the survivors of the aboriginal race. The  honorable member seemed to have  been under the impression that it was necessary for the Association for the Protection of the Aborigines to raise £1,000 before they were entitled to receive any of the £2,000 which appeared upon this vote, hut he took it that the society  would receive £2  for every £1  they  raised. The whole colony was  under  a  debt of gratitude to those gentlemen  who  had in first instance established  mission  stations, for the improvement of the conditions of the aborigines. Their action appeared to have awakened  the  country to a sense of' its responsibility in the matter.  He believed that Mr. Matthews, of Maloga,  initiated the work.         

                                   

Mr. Farnell : Efforts were made forty-five years ago !  

Mr. GARRARD : But the first systematic and  successful   effort  was   made by Mr.   Matthews,   and  it  was   repeated  at the Warangesda  Station. The Association for the Protection of the Aborigines had  taken into its  care the conduct of these  two  stations, and  it  was  pleasing to   know  that  a  number  of  charitably disposed  persons had contributed to the cost  of their maintenance,  and  that the Government now saw their way to place at  the disposal of  the  Aborigines  Pro­tection Board a sum of £4,000 instead of   the   £1,000  voted   last  year. He shared in the regret  expressed  by  the honorable member for West Sydney (Mr.O’Connor) that   some    steps  were    not taken long ago to brighten the last days of an expiring race. The expenditure of this vote, however, would go some way  towards  wiping  out  the disgrace which had hitherto attached to the colony by reason  of its  neglect  to care for the Welfare of these unfortunate wretches - for wretched   in   the  extreme they certainly  were. He hoped, however, that the board would exercise such influence as it possessed to prevent the blacks from coming into the centres of population, where they saw nothing but worst side of our civilisation. They would be far better off in the country districts. A number of  the unfortunate people had been wandering about the streets of  the metropolis during the past weeks. The annual distribution of blankets which was made on the 24th May appeared to have attracted them to the city earlier than usual. He  cheerfully voted for the increased estimate.  

Mr. B. H. D. WHITE was also very pleased that the vote had been increased. He  was   satisfied  that  only a very few members of the House were acquainted with the deplorable condition of the aborigines. Many of them could not obtain sufficient to eat,   and  were reduced  to a state almost of starvation.  He had discovered that some blacks had lately died at Port Stephens in a state of absolute destitution. The few blacks who were able to earn a living were eaten out of camp by the others. He intended to bring under the notice of the board the state of want to which the blacks in his electorate —and there were a  great  many—were reduced; and he hoped that there would next year be a further increase in the vote.  

Mr. GARRETT intended to support the vote; but he objected to the organisation for the expenditure of the money. He had no confidence in voluntary boards so far as the expenditure of public money was concerned. It would be far better to leave the expenditure of the money in the hands of a responsible minister ; under the present  arrangement   that  responsibility was frittered away through the  Minister to  the under-secretary,  and through the undersecretary to a board who were not paid for their services.    He believed that the gentlemen who composed the board were actuated by benevolent motives ; but they seldom performed their duties.    Who could be held responsible for this neglect? True, the Minister was nominally responsible,  but  he had between him and the House a buffer in the shape of this unpaid board.    During the last six weeks he had noticed droves of blacks in the city begging of every one they met ; but when this vote was passed last year it was supposed that it would put an end to that state of  things. It should be our endeavour to put a stop to this discreditable spectacle.   We were only discharging a duty to those of whose country we had possessed ourselves when we made this provision  for them. His chief object in rising, however, was to point out that as regards the expenditure of this money a voluntary board could not be expected to discharge  their duties so satisfactorily as a paid board. The existing arrangement was another illustration of the old saying that every one's business was no one's business.  

Mr. FREMLIN  could not support this vote, because he did not believe that as a rule the expenditure of the money had the beneficial  effect which it was supposed to have. As regarded the blacks at Botany, he was aware that they had been supplied with boats and fishing lines and other means of gaining a livelihood; but this distribution had been attended by the most disappointing results.  They were too prone to exchange for grog everything which was given to them. He could not help expressing his contempt for the ill-judged sympathy with the blacks which was manifested by some members of the board whose names it was quite unnecessary to mention.  When the House sanctioned  the  expenditure of so large a sum of money we had a right to expect  that the board would take some more definite action. It was a disgrace to the community that the blacks should come into our centres of population exposing their peculiar  vices side by side with the vices of our own people. .  The honorable member for  Balmain (Mr. Garrard) had expressed some very benevolent sentiments as to our duty towards the aboriginal race; but if England were to take it  upon herself to provide food and clothing for the  aboriginal race of every country of which she took possession she would have more than enough to do. Many of the so-called blacks had in their veins a considerable proportion of the blood of people of white extraction. Why should they not work as white men were made to work ? Why should  we pamper them up ? He would  not object so much to making provision for the support of the pure blacks; but in cases where the men had the blood of  white  men in  their veins they should be made to work as white men worked. He should vote against the measure.  

Mr. BARBOUR said there were doubtless good and bad aboriginals as there were also good and bad white men; but under any circumstances we should consider  the welfare of the children of the aboriginals who were receiving education, combined with domestic training, in the institutions which were referred to. It had been observed that the blacks were given to habits of  intemperance; but there were many white men who rendered   themselves objectionable upon this score, and we had no right to expect that  the  blacks would be absolutely free from vices of this description. We could certainly do a great deal towards enabling  them to become useful members of society, and in this  respect the mission stations were carrying out a very important work. The girls in these institutions, he believed, were taught to sew, while the boys were trained in various descriptions of farm-work. He had had frequent opportunities of observing the working of these institutions, and he felt persuaded that they were of great utility. 

 

Mr. O'CONNOR said that the money was either necessary or not. If not, it ought not to appear on the Estimates. If it was necessary, it ought not to be dependent upon any   contingency whatever. That we had improved upon what was done by our  predecessors was to a certain extent creditable to ourselves; but if our predecessors had neglected  to do their duty to the aborigines that  was no reason why we should do it badly if we did it at all. There was not a more charitable member in the House than the honorable member for Redfern (Mr. Fremlin), yet that honorable member said  that we ought to let the aborigines starve because some of them were not pure blacks. If they were not pure blacks, it was because of the viciousness of  the whites. We ought  to take these  people   under  our tender   care.     The   honorable   members asked what the British did in the parts of the world where their power was predominant; but he would point out that in no part of the world did the British nation rule so cheaply as here. In other colonies standing armies had to be maintained ; but in Australia we had nothing more to do than to preserve the emblems of peace.    We had only to make a provision for those unfortunate aborigines, who are rapidly dying out. It must be known to the Colonial  Secretary that innumerable complaints had been made about these people being in want. Why were they allowed to get into that condition? They had not the power to take care of themselves, and we ought to provide them with their necessities in every   possible way. We were called upon by every feeling of humanity to do it, and he hoped the Colonial Secretary would withdraw  the condition upon which the money was to be granted. He would be glad if the Colonial Secretary would tell him who the members of the board were.    

                                 

Mr. STUART: I understood that the honorable member had read the report which the names of the six members of the board are attached. There is a board, consisting of six members, for the protection of the aborigines. There is also voluntary society, of which the honorable member for Mudgee, Sir John Robertson is, I  believe, the president. This item of £2,000 is to aid that society. If we were to  hand over  the  money  to  the society unconditionally,   we  should  cease to call forth those philanthropic exertions for the exercise of which the society was formed. The members of the Government board are Mr. Richard Hill, Mr. W. J. Foster, Mr. Alexander Gordon, Mr. P.  G.  King, Mr. Fosbery,  and Mr.  Robison, Inspector of Charities.    It is impossible for the committee  to eliminate the<